Another “Baptist” Chasing After The Apostate Catholic Church

***hat tip to Melvin over at Pulpit Pimps for who wrote about this first***

Good grief. No, the man pictured above is not the new black pope…he’s a Baptist preacher.

Excuse me…bishop.

I don’t know how I missed this story, but I did. It looks like the black charismatic church has acquired yet another “bishop” (as if there aren’t enough):

The pastor becomes a bishop

Pageantry adorns the Rev. Claude Alexander’s consecration ceremony

Big hats, raised flags, lighted candles, multi-colored vestments. The Rev. Claude Alexander of Charlotte’s University Park Baptist Church was consecrated this week as a bishop in the Kingdom Association of Covenant Pastors. The splendor of images was a feast for the eyes.

And for the soul, says Bishop Oscar Brown, a Baltimore-based pastor who was the episcopal consultant for the Wednesday night ceremony at the former Merchandise Mart in Charlotte.

Though the association is a mostly Baptist group, Alexander’s bishop garb and other symbols on display recalled the more ancient traditions of the Roman Catholic church. Brown says some Protestant faiths are embracing some of those old ways.

“The pageantry needs to return to the church, with understanding,” says Brown. “In the past, we as Baptists threw out everything without understanding that it had biblical reference.”

For those of you who don’t reside in the Charlotte, NC area, Claude Alexander is a pretty big deal up there. I’ve heard him speak live in the past (at a men’s conference when I was still drinking the Kool-Aid). He is a real Doctor, not one of these phony wanna be’s. But alas, old Claude is also a friend of TD Jakes, Eddie Long, and other vipers that distort the Word of God, so I shouldn’t be surprised to see him elevating his game. Now he’s a “bishop” in a made-up denomination called the Kingdom Association of Covenant Pastors.

I grew up in a traditional “missionary baptist” church. When I was a kid, a preacher was called a preacher. Every now and then we’d get an “evangelist” to visit the church (usually during the pastor’s anniversary), and we thought that was “high cotton”.

But a “bishop”? Seriously? Why is most of black Christiandom so enamored with the “bread & circuses” of the apostate Roman Catholic Church?

Think I’m exaggerating, well take a look at some photos of Claude’s “coming out” party. Wow – alter boys? Coats of Arms? Is this a Knights of Columbus convention?

Let’s think about this for a moment…The Roman Catholic Church (more affectionately know as the Cult of Mary) has elevated one man to the position of “holy father” of billions of people around the globe. Also, the RCC is a multi-billion dollar “ministry” where the “holy father” serves as a pseudo head of state in a sovereign mini-country (the Vatican) within a city.

I guess those are good enough reasons for a pimp (or wanna be)to embrace the RCC – surely those facts feed into the pimp’s desire for control.

But what about the other apostasy that comes with allegiance to the RCC – praying to dead saints for intercession with the Father? Salvation through works? The belief that Jesus isn’t the only way to God?

Wow – would you really want to admire that heresy and apostasy…just so you can wear a funky hat with a flowing robe and a crooked stick?

Matthew 23:5-7 (New American Standard Bible)

5“But they do all their deeds (A)to be noticed by men; for they (B)broaden their [a]phylacteries and lengthen (C)the tassels of their garments.

 6“They (D)love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues,

 7and respectful greetings in the market places, and being called (E)Rabbi by men.

If you’re so inclined to fall all over these “bishops”, then be my guest.

I’m sure they’ll keep falling more and more deeply in love with the apostate Roman Catholic Church until one day they’ll have you praying to old dead “Elder Washington” (the patron saint of crunk youth ministry) to intercede on behalf of your children.

Oh, by the way – if you’re an apologist for the apostate Roman Catholic Church, then keep it moving (2 John 1:10-11).

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20 Responses to “Another “Baptist” Chasing After The Apostate Catholic Church”


  1. 1 Brother K September 2, 2008 at 4:45 am

    Well, if you ask me ‘Bishop’ Claude is lookin’ a little “off the rack” with his ecumenical garb. Can’t someone please help the man out with a ‘love offering’ so he can get some real Ermine or at least some hand-cobbled shoes? It’s so hard to keep up with the Ratzingers when your mitre comes from Party City…

  2. 2 speaking truth September 2, 2008 at 11:04 am

    It’s so hard to keep up with the Ratzingers when your mitre comes from Party City…

    😆

    Now you got me thinking Brother K – what if baptists really wanted to emulate the apostate RCC’s practices. Black folks will only put up with a little of the “bishop show”. If Claude had bypassed Party City and done the whole RCC dog & pony show (white smoke to indicate his ascension, custom tailored vestments – including the bishops slippers – from the Vatican’s tailor, the edicts pronounced from the rooftop), then folks would finally say “wait a minute – it doesn’t take all of that!”.

    But alas, baptists (and COGIC, and Full Gospel, and almost every other Pentecostal denomination) will keep chasing after the apostate RCC until you can’t tell one from the other.

  3. 3 Douglas K. Adu-Boahen September 2, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    I am in shock just looking at the pics from this whole “sacred service of Episcopal consecration”. Even the Anglicans here in England aren’t as bad as this – and they’re real messed up. One has to wonder what they hope to prove by doing all of this – it doesn’t add one iota to their credibility among believers in the Word of God and its doctrines, it doesn’t edify the Body, and it isn’t part of the Gospel? So again, I ask: What do they hope to achieve with this nonsense?

  4. 4 EnochWalked September 2, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Praise the LORD!

    Brother Speaking Truth,
    I am posting a link–CHECK THIS OUT!

    http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/890/dagon.html

    Do these clowns realize how IGNORANT they are by wearing the symbol of the idol Dagon–the fish god-man of the Philistines??????? Somebody that loves this guy needs to show him that he looks like an IDIOT!

    Guys like Claude Alexander need to REPENT and stop being CopyCats of the Roman Catholic Church! I am very, very careful about what I wear when ministering–from Robe to suits. I want to look like CHRIST, not the pope or these so called “bishops”.

  5. 5 N. Spears September 2, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    This was the last straw that made me leave my previouse church of 9 years. My then “pimpstress” say God told her she was called to be an “archbishop”. She has the church members of the church going broke to pay for this Catholic-like consecration for her. Being part of the leadership, we had to purchase these expensive garments from a Catholic supply store. She did the hole 9. Miter, alter-kids, etc. I was an assistant pastor and I took my family and left, because I knew if wasn’t right. I am so glad we didn’t take part of it. My sister visited the church since I left and told me she has this huge red chair on the alter that she sits in now. Talk about Matthew 23:5-7 to the fullest. Glory to God for having the grace to pull me and my family out of that mess.

  6. 6 Lavrai September 2, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Hello! Getting down with the RCC apparently allows you to wear pretty clothes.

  7. 7 DMac September 3, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Paul described himself as a “servant” of Christ. Could you imagine the things Paul could have boasted about, the things he could told those to whom he wrote. Paul didn’t dwell on the encounter he had with Jesus on the road or the revelations he recieved. Instead he shared his many struggles, hardships and shortcomings and never once took the high ground or spoke in a manner that illustrated some form of superiority complex.

    So why do we feel the need to puff ourselves up? Where is that sense of humility and servanthood gone? We all want to become rich and powerful through Christ. Business seminars, 7 steps to prosperity, how to be happy and fulfilled etc…This is what Christianity has become. I happened to catch the end of Leroy Thompson’s broadcast on Daystar. He has a seminar called “money cometh now” or something to that effect happening soon. I truly despair at the way in which our Lord has been reduced to some get rich quick scheme. It seems that men are no longer satisfied with the letters D and R before their names. Now they have to be an Apostle or Bishop and their wives have to parade up some catwalk, so that their superiority can be clearly seen by all.

    James 4:10 – humble yourselves and the Lord with lift you up

  8. 8 joyfulfreedom1 September 13, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    You know what I never knew that stuff looked so pagan! Why doesn’t someone just say it? These cats are going to bust hell wide open! The biggest shame is on the professing believers, that can’t distinguish between truth and error. In an unregenerate state as a sixth grader doing Release Time Religious education at Lincoln Elementary school, I immediately knew the difference between protestant and catholic without actually being taught. That was over 30 years ago, with little or no bible, no theology, and it shows me that sad state of affairs in the African American church across this nation today.

    In my best Roger Thomas voice:

    Tragic, Tragic!

  9. 9 churchhistorian September 15, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    People, these garments are not simply Roman Catholic garments, but this looks more protestant to me as well. It looks like garments from the Church of England. Episcopalians in the states also where this. I think we need to re-evaluate and study the purpose for these garments, which we have been taught are to bring out the beauty of worship with our garments as well. Baptists have praise banners, uniforms for ushers, choir robes, paraments, etc. Dont they??? The scriptures even emphasize colors of garments, etc. I think before we start condemning people, we need to become intelligent concerning these matters ourselves.

    • 10 donnie October 26, 2009 at 5:23 pm

      well you are actually wrong if you study the garments of high priest and even the garments that covered and co-decorated the ark of the covenant, you will notice that the colors had extremely deep theological and heavenly meaning and symbolism. I agree with sacred institutions that follow the Holy Scriptures wholeheartedly, but there is not anything in the Holy Scriptures about ushers. However, there were musicians, in fact the prophet Zechariah started out in the Levitical Order as a gate keeper. However, he was a musician also that was separated and called out from the rest of the Israelites. THerefore, the musicians and singers wore holy garments that differentiated them from other Israelites. But we must be so very careful to maintain the integrity of the text by keeping its context.
      What we are doing is condemning the actions and ignorance, and the ignorance will cause Christians and individuals to suffer and not take on the fullness of Christ. These garments do not bring us closer to Christ nor do these garments make one Christian more righteous or privileged than any other Christian. In fact God does not favor one person over others, but God releases favor over those that live righteously according to our obedience.

  10. 11 speaking truth September 15, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    churchhistorian,

    Thanks for your comment. I don’t know the motives of other commenters, but my assertian is that Baptists (as well as many other denominations) are chasing the RCC by adopting the hierarchy (bishops, archbishops, alter boys, vestments, etc.). Arguably, the RCC is the oldest denomination in Christiandom (correct me if I’m wrong – circa 1st Century A.D.?), so it doesn’t matter if the Episcopalians and others do it also – the point of the article was that now “mainline baptists” are chasing the trend as well.

    None of this has to do with the worship of God – and that’s the problem. We’re too busy putting on a religous circus to entertain the masses and parade around in our uniforms when the Gospel becomes an afterthought. I still affirm that it’s a turn toward the apostate RCC and their wicked doctrine (and flashy uniforms).

  11. 12 philwil September 18, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    It’s not a matter of “chasing a trend”. Truth to told if you were to learn the garments that a Bishop wears – the mitre, the chausable, the cope, the chimere, the rochet, the cinture, the cassock, the collar, the cross, and the chain and study both their biblical and historical nature, you will find out that they are correct in what they wear. Does not the Bible talk about the qualifications of the office of a Bishop? These articles date back to Aaron and the levitical priest and each have scripture to back them up. These garments – WHEN WORN CORRECTLY AND IN THE RIGHT POSTURE – are to signify that you have been called by God as the Chief Servant as well as the Defender of the Faith. I pray that you would take some time to learn these articles of clothing and do an indepth study on their significance to the body of Christ

    • 13 donnie October 26, 2009 at 5:29 pm

      But all Christians have been called to accomplish a purpose and most of all to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. That is what it means to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world. Jesus’ light shines on us because God meant for his light to shine in our lives. You have been called also, not just the man/woman in the pulpit. Christians will be continuously be in bondage until this revelation is taught to the church. These garbs are discussed in a book called “Pagan Christianity” that was started and promoted in the Western church after Constantine. We must read people! We have to continue doing research to find out what it is that we do in service is actually sound doctring of the Holy Scriptures and not a useless sounding brass and tinkling cymbal of man’s words of reason

  12. 14 DestinysLady September 22, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    It is amazing to me how these cats can mix a little bit of Catholic, a dash of Lutheran, a pound and a half of Anglican and then smother it in Big Mama and call it an ordaination ceremony. Alexander and the boys look like King Vitamin (cereal) and the colorful Teletubies. And don’t let me forget the first ladies strut, I mean dance, I mean bounce. Oh heck, them girls in white look like Sister Batril from the Flying Nun. So glad it was not windy in there. What a show! Jesus take the wheel….

  13. 15 Hope Goodwill September 30, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    I used to attend the Park when I lived in Charlotte, and I can tell you that Claude Alexander is a charlatan. I remember his black cleric robes that he used to wear before he got all “brand new,” and I always half-expected him to break from the sermon and start doing kung fu ala “The Matrix.” One of the (many) things that turned me off and ultimately resulted in me leaving the church was how “exalted” the pastor was. They made it seem like he was the second coming or something, always talking about how we needed to lift him up because he was so (self?) important. What happened to humility? Service? And after seeing this mess, sanity? Pretty much every sermon devolved into how we should be giving a tithe, but you know, really we should be giving the 90% and keeping the 10% every Easter. And if you don’t think that’s possible, let our financial planners (excuse me?) show you how to do it (while maintaining your 10% contribution, of course). While a bit shocking (an NO, to whomever compared banners and the like to this ridiculousness, it is NOT AT ALL part of the Baptist tradition), it is simply the outward manifestation of an egomaniac. I could go on…thanks for posting this.

  14. 16 Hope Goodwill October 1, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    I forgot to mention, he proposed (and I’m not sure if it passed) that as the pastor, he should be pulling down 10% of the house take of the collection. We’re talking 10% of 100K + (and that was 10 years ago) every Sunday!

  15. 17 Read Exodus 28:1-8 October 15, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    A lot of this is NOT Catholic. Read the Bible. All of the garment are listed long before the CATHOLICS. Read Exodus 28:1-8 and 35:20-35; Leviticus 8th Chapter, where the Mitre (the head dress) and other vestments (the Bible calls Holy Garments to be worn for Glory and Beauty Exodus 28:1-28) were worn by the Priest, even the colors are described in the Bible. These vestments worn by the Priest were very elaborate. I don’t judge how other people serve the Lord as long as they follow God.

    I serve the Lord at my Church but I read the Bible and study. We are following Christ not man. Why does it matter what we wear? If that Bishop wants to have a consecration, let him have one. Read a book on Church history. I am NOT Catholic or Baptist. Pentecostal and we have worn the garments as long as I can remember and I am in my 60’s so this is not new to us but perhaps in the Baptist Church it is something new. I have known this to be true in our churches since I was a young woman. The garments were Not so elaborate in those days because the people did not have the money to purchase but the same garments and patterns were worn. The Methodist also wear vestments. Also ordinations and consecrations were also explained in the Bible. My father is a Bishop (has been for more than 38 years) and a good man.
    A Bishop’s daughter

  16. 18 speaking truth October 18, 2008 at 8:41 am

    Read Exodus…,

    I appreciate the depth of your comment, but none of that changes anything that I originally wrote – or my sentiments. Clearly, anyone who reads the bible can go through the Old Testament to see how God detailed not only the various garments that were to be worn by the priests, but also the ornate assembly of the Tabernacle of Meeting. The ornate pageantry that we see today is a symbol of excess and marketing (in my humble opinion).

    Countless churches are ordaining “bishops” and “apostles”, and putting on ornate “shows” to impress the “viewers”. But most of the churches who teach and preach pure bible (no fluff, no pomp and circumstance) don’t have time for the theatrics because they’re too busy going through expository study of the Word – and that takes time. I’m glad that your dad is a bishop – and a good man, so this post is not about him.

  17. 19 anointedvessel December 10, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Hey but yall ain’t heard the worst. I have been to a consecration service where the program actually states that the pastor er I mean Bishop “to be”, can be traced through the levitical preisthood all the way back to Peter I think they said. I nearly got put out of the “oh so solemn” occasion because I laughed out loud, and I’m talking knee slapping hoo ha ha. I couldn’t believe my ears. I guess the place was so infused with pomp and circumstance and everybody was so stiff and overly dressed they probably would have fractured a rib and shredded some clothing if they chuckled. If people actually did the research on the origin of the Mitre hat and it’s pagan relationship they may not be so quick to put it on. For instance, the mitre on the goddess cybele, is very similar to the Fish head hat/mitre of the god Dagon. I wonder if Slick Eddie would have survived the wilderness diet of John, and the eat by faith and sleep where there is lodging lifestyle of the disciples. No big ornate robes, gawdy hats, best foods, private jets and secret service like armor bearers. Just salt of the earth regular people seeking the lost not seeking the loot.
    ~Anointed

  18. 20 anointedvessel December 10, 2008 at 12:32 am

    By the way the mitre in the bible and the catholic mitre pictured are different.


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