Know When To Fold ‘Em, Eddie…

Eddie Long is proving more and more that he doesn’t quite know when to “fold ‘em” and slink back under the rock he escaped.

As I’ve said before – this blog is not “all things Eddie Long”, I am simply documenting the dissection of a pulpit pimp before our very eyes…and Eddie seems to want to shine more and more light on his dysfunction on a regular basis.

In late January, Eddie made a YouTube appeal asking an investor to return money to members of his congregation (some of the lemmings left at Club New Birth) that he claimed was mishandled. It was a bizarre appeal (considering Eddie regularly mishandled money culled from his lemmings), and it caught the attention of the local Fox affiliate.

I pretty much ignored the story back then – although I found it difficult to at first. Like many others, I’ve thrown good money after bad at Eddie’s Ponzi schemes during my time of strong delusion at CNB – and I’ve even lost money to the snake-oil sales people he brought before the congregation as well (failed “magazine subscriptions”, “New Birth water”, Mark Hanby’s phony corporate stock purchasing scams, and more).

Still,  I had to scratch my head in wonder – why would a wig-wearing alleged homosexual “bishop” choose to remain in the public eye while simultaneously fighting/mediating a civil lawsuit for sexual coercion? It doesn’t make sense – but  not much coming out of CNB does these days.

We all know that Eddie is a metaphorical gambler – he plays “fast and loose” with the truth and rolls the dice when it comes to butchering God’s Word. Thanks to a helpful reminder from my brother IndependentConservative (who is doing well, just taking a VERY LONG blog hiatus), we now know that apparently Eddie is also a literal gambler.

It looks like Eddie encouraged his sheeple to invest in “sweepstakes machines”…yup, the good “bishop” was drumming up participants for a gambling business. Click the link to watch the latest investigative report into the saga heretofore known as Eddie Long, and keep in mind: the men in the story who collectively lost more than $20,000 ARE STILL MEMBERS OF CLUB NEW BIRTH!

I keep wondering why Eddie even still has keys to that building. C’mon Eddie, know when to fold ‘em…sheesh.

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28 Responses to “Know When To Fold ‘Em, Eddie…”


  1. 1 Ann March 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    IST, hey how are you doing? “Did Bishop Eddie Long Steer His Members Into An Illegal Gambling Racket?” I take it as truth he did! From reports I have read it sure looks like it….History have shown us The pulpit of a Christian church (especially the black church) is a very powerful place…..And pastors like Long need to and should be very careful about what they say and what and whom they endorse from it….My question is why are church folks investing in a sweepstakes gambling endeavor?

  2. 2 Tina March 31, 2011 at 10:05 am

    This is unbelievable. I guess he’s going to have to literally come in there brandishing a gun and kill somebody before they put him up out of there. Apparently committing spiritual murder amongst a body of believers is not criminal enough for them to rise up and make him step down.

  3. 3 thatyoumaysee March 31, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Hey ISP,
    This goes along with the arrogance of these “pastors.” Their conscience has been seared with a hot iron that they believe they can do NO wrong.
    Look at “prophetess” Bynum, or “pastor” Paula White (or whoever shes is married to at the time). These charlatans are right back in business even after being exposed and deposed. I often wonder if they have been given over to a reprobate mind. They laugh in the face of God and elevate themselves.
    Not only are they dangerous, they themselves are in danger.

  4. 4 GaryV March 31, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Know when to fold ‘em?? Well, he certainly knew when to hold ‘em, as the multiple sexual misconduct allegations make clear. Now he’s into promoting gambling too? SMH.

    What’s the next “investment” scheme for Fast Eddie?? The mind boggles at the possibilities.

    • 5 Independent Conservative April 28, 2011 at 12:17 pm

      GaryV, you know the very nature of the “Prosperity Gospel” is a total “investment” scheme. There’s no way Eddie would use a different “investment” scheme than the one he’s already using. Since his “Prosperity Gospel” gets nonprofit status while he rolls in riches. It’s the scam that ensures he avoids prison time. Because any investment banker that tried what Eddie does would have been behind bars a long time ago.

      Eddie ensured his level of involvement in these “sweepstakes” machines was just detached enough to keep from getting all the dirt on his own hands.

  5. 6 andre April 1, 2011 at 1:51 am

    Keep up the good work Guys, we need more people to expose such
    liars and counterfeits of Christ. Jesus our Lord did warn us that
    there would be godless times when people would not put up with sound
    doctrine, biblical doctrine, and that he would give many over to a
    powerful delusion and corrupt mind as they have not sought the word
    of the Living God for themselves under the wisdom of His Holy Spirit. Does not the word say, who has the mind Of Christ, but the Spirit of Christ, and we {the true and tested and approved christian} have the Spirit of God. Too many love these false teachers and prophets and the deceiving words they pour forth
    like a peutrid river and so will sink into a slimy pit of their
    own making. Wake up before its too lake, repent and come back to
    the real Christ and Saviour.
    A watchman and servant of Christ
    Andre

  6. 7 Detox Church Group April 1, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    “It looks like Eddie encouraged his sheeple to invest in “sweepstakes machines”…yup, the good “bishop” was drumming up participants for a gambling business.”

    Oh my word – this sounds like an episode of Big Love when the Bill Paxton character Bill Henrickson and his business partner decide to have a slot machine business. (Big Love is about a fictional fundamentalist Mormon family in Utah that practices polygamy by setting up house(s) in a subdivision in Sandy Utah trying to live a normal life. They are trying to fight the polygamy compound they came out of as well as establish themselves as normal citisens. Makes for a very interesting story – and strangely enough we see so many similarities to our old church world and that’s why we keep watching it!)

    ” snake-oil sales people he brought before the congregation as well”

    And this reminds me of the pastor at our old world – he was such a sucker for all sorts of schemes to help the church (i.e.him) make money. Unfortunately the last charlatan he brought before the congregation and even made into a leader is now WANTED IN 4 STATES! Idaho, Colorado, Utah and Texas! Numerous families in the church lost their homes because of his scheme, but oddly enough the entire lead family still own their homes. Way to go Pastor – what was that you said about spiritual covering and why we need you to be that in our lives? Give me a break.

    Maybe there is a connection between abusive dysfunction and being gullible. Perhaps this is what will ultimately bring the Eddie Longs of the world down – their own gullibility in the financial realm which of course is fueled by their own greed.

  7. 8 Pamela April 1, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    People can no longer hide. People are savvy enough to decipher information posted on the Internet and determine what is true or not. Preachers by now should realize that whatever is done in the dark will come out, especially as an answer to the prayers of sincere saints that desire to follow leaders as they follow Christ not those that enrich themselves and poison the pure gospel.

    Thank God there are more and more voices that are reporting on the madness called the church. If Christians do not judge themselves the media will be glad to do so with a lot of humiliation included. I know I am checking myself out. I am not in church leadership. However you would think that church leaders would do this because of their exposure, especially those on TV, radio or do live streaming of their services. Those that care nothing about Christians will be more than glad to out a rogue preacher.

  8. 9 EyesWideOpen April 3, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    I was a member at NB for 7 years and lost $5,000 on this scam – and I only make 24k a year. Its a big hit but that God is was one of the final straws that He used to wake me up. I’m now in a very healthy congregation and steadily growing in Christ. The thing about it is that for so long you hear “God wants you to be a businessman. If you’re not, then you’re not being a good steward with God’s money.” that you finally put your hard earned (or borrowed) cash and your faith into something that crumbles – I hate the fact that he’s done that to people.

  9. 10 Cop April 4, 2011 at 12:15 am

    Let me see if I have this correct.

    Eddie Long asked his people to gamble ON GAMBLING?

    So he was promoting being a good stewart over your money by taking other peoples money to pay for their lifestyle……

    Wait a minute, that’s exactly what Eddie does every Sunday.

    Eddie is so far ahead of any other pulpit pimp out there, he is a true foward thinker for adding to his riches.

    Lord help the people of that church to open their eyes.

  10. 11 Anna Renee April 4, 2011 at 3:56 am

    WOW! Its deeper than we could conceive to believe! This man Long is satanic! The devil is who has hit the jackpot!

  11. 12 Anna Renee April 4, 2011 at 10:44 am

    I think that rather than being gullible, the people of these churches are deeply brainwashed. We have Jim Jones, and David Koresh type figures here, MASTER manipulators, luring the people in so deep that they can’t shake free as easily as it would seem to us on the outside looking in.

    It can’t be that so many people are just plain stupid. There is some profound mind control going on here. That is why God tell us to guard our hearts(mind) with ALL DILIGENCE. The best way to do that is to fill it with the Word of God – hourly!

    Satan is using Eddie, he isn’t even his own. Eddie stopped guarding his heart long ago, obviously.

    • 13 Detox Church Group April 4, 2011 at 7:09 pm

      Hi Anna,

      I agree that it’s not necessarily the people in these churches who are gullible. The gullible comment I made earlier was in reference to the pastor/king leaders themselves being gullible which is motivated by greed and hence may be their undoing eventually.

      • 14 Anna Renee April 5, 2011 at 7:39 pm

        Yes, you’re right. Greed leads to gullibility, and I got a feeling that we’ve only scratched the surface of the Eddie Long situation. If he’s let one snake oil salesman in, then he’s probably let in all kinds and many more, requiring a fee. What is that called? Pimpology?

        Jesus told the leaders to FEED the sheep, not to take food from them! And Eddies has allowed many to take food right out of the sheep’s mouths….

  12. 15 Independent Conservative April 26, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    It is “amazing to me” (one of Eddie’s favorite terms) that he still has “followers”. I thank God He got me out out of Eddie’s line to doom.

    Looks like Eddie is near a settlement with his sexual abuse victims accusers: http://www.christianpost.com/news/eddie-long-lawsuit-close-to-being-resolved-says-judge-49980/

    And in older news I didn’t catch till today. We have more proof the “prosperity” folks are more impacted by the economic downturn than they’d lead anyone to ever believe:

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/eddie-longs-new-birth-announces-staff-salary-cuts-49259/

    I thought prosperity folks always said anyone with enough “faith” would remain above economic crisis? Well if they’re having an economic downturn, that makes their “Prosperity Gospel” a lie, and IT IS A LIE.

    Good bloggin brother IST. I would love to engage on the blogs more myself, but for now the Lord has determined I have to keep my focus in managing family. But I still get to share the truth with others as God provides opportunity, most importantly in training up my boys :) . To God be the glory!

    • 16 AT2W April 26, 2011 at 10:44 pm

      @IC, We were just going to say the same thing. Long and the accusers may be reaching a settlement soon. He’s allegedly ‘thrown out’ on the accusers on Easter Sunday during his sermon. Its such a shame that he will use the single most important day (Resurrection Day) to be vindictive towards four young men whom we believe are telling the truth. He has no morals nor character which reveals his narcissist personality as he thinks he is more important than Christ.

      Whatever the settlement may be, it will never ever take the pain away from those young men and it certainly will not buy his way into heaven. Only God will help them begin to heal from this terrible misuse and abuse from one of Christ’s so called ‘ambassadors’.

  13. 17 ready4change June 1, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    ST,

    Settled but dismissed with “prejudice”? I’m not a legal guy, so can you help me out with this one? Thanks.

    SDG,

    R4C

    http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/eddie-long-case-officially-958537.html

    • 18 Independent Conservative June 1, 2011 at 7:47 pm

      A case ended “with prejudice” means that same case can NEVER be brought against the accused EVER again. This means, the 4 accusers agreed to a settlement that legally has bound them from EVER filing ANY other claims against Long for their past accusations.

      So even now if Eddie Long said to the world he did it, they’d not be able to bring any new claims against him. Only people other than those 4 are able to bring abuse claims.

      But now, those people leaving Eddie need to realize the so-called “gospel” Eddie was selling is FALSE. That even aside from Long’s conduct in private, his public claims of a Prosperity Gospel are FALSE. They need to come to know the true sovereignty of God and read their Bibles more. Learn to rightly divide scripture. Ask God for wisdom and He will give it to them. I’d suggest they start with learning to properly read and understand every verse of I Timothy 6.

      Long is done. He’s going to learn the hard way why disgraced men such as him usually just resign.
      See: http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/eddie-long-church-collapsin/

  14. 20 ready4change June 2, 2011 at 7:24 am

    IC,

    Thanks for the help. That really clears things up. I agree and say a hearty amen to all of your points as well. Take care.

    Solus Christus,

    R4C

  15. 21 annedowell86@yahoo.com June 3, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    it took me a while to put it all together…after reading God’s Word it became so clear!! The pimps spin on this whole formula…If i tithe %10 of my gross income then that rebukes satan from touching my money. I quess being a born again believer who does not live under the curse of God’s judgement is powerless to assist me??? (not) but then if i want to make money back i have to give till it hurts!! don’t pay the bill give it all to “God” or the “storehouse and prove him” and then bam it will come back to me 30, 60, 100 fold!!! but i must display 100 fold faith by feeling happy about not paying my bills or it won’t work!!!No guilt allowed for not paying bills owed!! Creditors are not impressed with this level of faith!!! Then if that doesn’t pan out then maybe i need to give the first fruit of my yearly wages….30 days…the first month that will do it. Then i can start the year off right and be assured of no loopholes in the return!!! well that’s good because i will be one month behind on rent, and everything else….no money for food? well time to fast, i must be really summoning the powers of hell…taking authority over my finances!!LOL or maybe i’m just not being a good steward and being responsible with my money??? I got real crazy….i tested God for real…i stopped giving to those who have, no more tithe, no more seeds planted with a harvest on its way??? No more tolerating manipulation and scripture twisting and wow have things turned around!! Not sure that would work as a ‘praise report in the pimp camp!!! i have really placed my trust in God the Father of Christ Jesus and He has blessed my socks off!!!! i should have stuck with the truth…lesson learned!!!

  16. 22 N'Catina June 6, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Apparently, the hits keep coming. Now, Creflo Dollar has decided to throw in his two cents…….in favor of Eddie Long.

    • 23 CiCi June 7, 2011 at 9:22 pm

      This is absolutely outrageous!!! Is he serious?!?!? Is he comparing a calculating, manipulative predator to someone who simply has a car accident because he misjudged the distance between cars?!?!?

      This is a shame and a disgrace!!! And every decent preacher who loves and fears God and loves His people ought to speak out against what Creflo is saying on this video.

      Are you kidding me?!?!?!?

  17. 24 terry@breathinggrace June 7, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    I see I’m not the only one who’s on to Pastor Dollar’s attempt to strong arm Eddie Long’s disaffected members back to New Birth’s pews.

  18. 25 speaking truth June 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Great comments from everyone – and welcome back to blogland, IC. It seems as though there are less cars flowing in and out of Club New Birth on Sundays (that’s my only un-scientific way of gauging the impact of this mess). Eddie is still a force to be reckoned with in these parts, especially for those who still love to worship man. Now he’s expanding his empire and asking for $500 to $1000 per congregant to help him do it!. Truth be told, the Birmingham church used to be called “The Restorer’s House” (or something like that), and that pastor is basically “surrendering” his church to Long.

  19. 26 Pamela June 7, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    The Pimp Preacher web site featured one of two videos taken in the parking lot of NBMBC the past two Sundays. I had planned on watching the church program this past Sunday morning on Streaming Faith but forgot. The goal was to see how many people were still attending services.

    5/31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHx4aW41Vss

    6/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5v-JqUAkM

    This morning one of my Facebook friends posted that hideous video of Creflo Dollar. They do not realize that people are wising up and will continue to leave these wolves like the Bible teaches that we should.

  20. 27 Marcia June 22, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Hey Pamela,

    Those videos have been taken down and the accounts closed @ you tube. This is so sad. I found out that a poster on youtube that exposed Creflo defending Eddie recieved a death threat! Yes a death threat!


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