Are “Armor Bearers” Biblical?

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In a word, no…at least not the modern day “armor bearers” walking 2 steps ahead of and behind most pastors today, but that doesn’t mean that they’re un-biblical either. 

The word “armor bearer” appears multiple times in the Old Testament, mainly in describing the activity of men charged with protecting a king – literally those who bore armor for protection of others (see the entire book of 1 Samuel for reference). 

Sure, the minstrels will argue up and down that they “need an armor bearer, so that I can concentrate on getting a Word from the Lord!”. Of course, what they really mean is they need someone to carry their bibles, water glasses, briefcases, luggage, children, and more.

Gotquestions.org published a great article a few weeks ago (reprinted below in entirety, emphasis added):

Question: “What is an armor-bearer? Should there be a church position of armor-bearer?”

In Scripture, an armor-bearer (also spelled armorbearer and armor bearer) was a servant who carried additional weapons for commanders. Abimelech (Judges 9:54), Saul (1 Samuel 16:12), Jonathan (1 Samuel 14:6-17), and Joab (2 Samuel 18:15) had armor-bearers/armorbearers. Armor-bearers were also responsible for killing enemies wounded by their masters. After enemy soldiers were wounded with javelins or bows and arrows, armor-bearers finished the job with clubs and/or swords. After the time of David, armor-bearers are no longer mentioned, likely due to the fact that commanders began to fight from chariots (1 Kings 12:18; 20:33).

Some churches today have instituted a figurative position of armor-bearer. The duties range widely, but generally speaking, a church armor-bearer carries the “armor” of a church leader, such as the leader’s Bible “the sword of the Spirit” (Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12). In some instances, a church armor-bearer essentially serves as a church leader’s bodyguard. Is the idea of a church armor-bearer biblically-based? No, it is not. Does the concept of a church armor-bearer contradict anything in Scripture? Not necessarily. Any church considering such a position should prayerfully study God’s Word and make sure the responsibilities assigned in no way conflict with the New Testament’s teaching on the church. The fact that the New Testament nowhere mentions armor-bearers and nowhere describes any of the apostles/prophets/elders having a person in that role should give pause to any church considering instituting the role of armor-bearer.

Churches and ministries should pray and be sure to adhere to TRUE scripture and not traditions of man. Of course, if more churches did pray and adhere to scripture, then their pews would be empty.

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41 Responses to “Are “Armor Bearers” Biblical?”


  1. 1 Broken Pastor August 19, 2009 at 6:16 am

    It seems that this ‘armor bearer’ position is similar to the assistants that go out with mascots and costumed characters at stadiums and theme parks. I could be wrong, but the similarities are amusing…

  2. 2 Cop August 19, 2009 at 9:49 am

    @ Broken Pastor

    LOL You are so right.:)

  3. 3 EnochWalked August 19, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    That picture looks like some Greek steppers striking a pose! LOL!

    A lot of what we do in our predominately black churches are black traditions. Many of these pastors were ex…military or still active Greeks. They bring their previous lives to the pulpit! It is the truth!

    True story. I was “escorting” a former bishop I used to sit under. He was a career military man with almost 30 years in the Army. It was his anniversary celebration(another discussion!). Here is the scenario. I was newly married and my wife was sitting at a table by herself. After the parade of ministers(I was one of them) escorted the bishop to his seat, they wanted one of the “armour bearers” to sit with the bishop at his table. I made a choice to sit with my wife. I almost had to (if push had come to shove) push one of the old guard ministers(another bishop) to get out of my way because I was going to sit with my wife. I never forget his words, “We don’t want bishop sitting by himself on his anniversay.” I told him, “I am going to sit with my wife.” Thank GOD that this did not break out into an ugly scene. But this stuff IS CHILDISH! But people put life and death importance in this foolishness.

    That was the last function I had with that ministry. When I look back on that day almost 7 years ago, NONE of those oldtimers(the bishop and the other biship) had successful marriages. I wonder WHY? I am thankful to this day that I got out of that STAGE PRESENCE the time that I did.

  4. 4 Dr.Mary August 20, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    I used to become bothered only by the pastors who practice such shenanigans but I am more bothered by weak willed people who allow themselves to be used in such fashion: wiping the brow of the “man of God” when he sweats, taking his jacket on and off, messaging his feet and back, carrying his bible, taking away his bible or other books when he is done with them, running to get things he left, etc. We were once picked up at the airport by a young man who had driven an hour to get to the airport and who transported us to the place of ministry (1 hr. return trip) only to tell us he had to go back to the airport to pick up someone else. When I asked why didn’t he ask us to wait so he could pick us all up at one time, he said that was not what he was told. I cautioned him on allowing himself to be used in that fashion. He had the same response I have heard from so many others. Somehow people are taught this is some glorified position wherein you give a drink of water to a prophet, you receive a prophet’s reward. Help Us.

  5. 5 John 8:32 August 24, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    I thought I would offer a slightly different opinion about Today’s Armor Bearer. Yes I believe Armor Bearer’s are necessary in today’s churches and I also believe its biblical. The question, what exactly is the Armor Bearer of today? I would submit that Today’s Armor Bearer should be God’s Armor Bearer. I believe that many church pastors and other leaders have twisted or are even clueless as to what an Armor Bearer is. I will admit that most, who call themselves Armor Bearers today, appear to be strictly servants of man and not true servants of God. They appear to be hired, used loosely, bodyguards and “yes men” who hold the title of Deacon, Minister, or Elder. Most are seen as water carrying, bible toting, shoelace tying, car washing, and laundry fetching mindless wonders again serving man when they should be serving God. Pastors, Armor Bearers, Church Leaders, and Christians in general might need to first study the Word of God and then research what exactly is the role of Today’s Armor Bearer. We know the Old Testament duties of the King’s Armor Bearer. We know of the profound examples of the loyalty Abimelech’s Armor Bearer displayed in Judges 9:45-55. Saul’s Armor Bearers in 1 Samuel 34 and King David as an Armor Bearer in 1 Samuel 16:14-23. In the Old Testament, during combat, loyal servants were in place to stand with their leaders, assist him, and keep him lifted and protected him from any enemy that might attack. Today I submit that true Armor Bearers are still serving in combat (Ephesians 6:12-18). Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, everyday we wake up as Christians we find ourselves engaged in spiritual warfare. Preaching the Word of God is, of course, no small task and this awesome task can not be done alone. I do believe that true Armor Bearers are called by God and that their duties are needed both in the spirit realm as well as the natural. They are to take as much load off their leaders and assist in serving and leading the children of God. Also they are to assist in imparting the vision that God has given the leader to give to His people. Armor Bearers are to also help their leader stand against the wiles of Satan, keep their leader focused on his calling, and to hold their leader accountable to preaching God’s Word and being a proper Sheppard the children of God. A true Armor Bearer serves God first, then God’s people, then his leader. Armor Bearers today have to be God fearing, Servant/Leaders who have the spirit and strength of our Lord, Jesus the Christ, within them. They should eat a full diet of God’s Word and should not be those with any hidden agenda. Are God’s Armor Bearers required today? Yes in my opinion, more so than ever.

    • 6 speaking truth August 24, 2009 at 3:13 pm

      They are to take as much load off their leaders and assist in serving and leading the children of God. Also they are to assist in imparting the vision that God has given the leader to give to His people…keep their leader focused on his calling, and to hold their leader accountable to preaching God’s Word and being a proper Sheppard the children of God.

      Therein lies my concern, John 8:32. You and I both know that there is a razor-thin line between “helping the leader stay focused on his calling” and “let’s take care of this so pastor doesn’t have to worry about (fill in the blank)”. The latter is most prevelant in Church, Inc. – and that is where I and others got caught up. When so many people scurry to help keep pastor “focused”, pastor begin’s to believe that he’s walking on a cloud. And truthfully, who can blame him? Every rock is removed from his path, so he has no reason to believe that the rocks were ever there in the first place. The next thing you know, pastor is drinking his own Kool-Aid, and he is demanding loyalty and servitude to him. Also, you and I know that most pastors who have armor bearers are less-likely to be approached by those people for correction – nor would they provide an atmosphere that welcomes correction (not all, but most). Even further, many pastors don’t even have a system of accountability within their churches where the elders can correct and rebuke – let alone a water carrier.

      That said, ALL of us should be accountable to one another for truth, and pastoring is a lonely job (as I’ve been told) where prayerful and biblical support is both warranted and necessary (Exodus 17:8-16). I agree with the article: armor bearers are not necessarily un-biblical, it’s just that they are another avenue for perversion in the wrong environment.

    • 7 TWC October 19, 2009 at 10:43 pm

      Thank you for this scriptural, prophetic reply.

    • 8 Blessed February 1, 2010 at 1:00 am

      Greatings to all who have commented on this issue and I have to say this is amazing to me. My heart is kind of greived as I sit hear on some of your comments.
      But I have to say a amour-Bearers job is by FAR a very real appointed and anointed position of God.
      It is not to just run behind and serve the Leader or Leaders in a natural position. Yes it do’s require protecting, serving, and doing all that your leader needs you to do. Then there is the other part where you have to stay in pray and fellowship to God for your leader/leaders and the people of God in your congregation
      So By no means can a armour-bearer be chose by man only anointed and appointed from God him self.
      So to answer your question is there as it was put mondern day armour-Bearers Yes there is.

      THank you John 8:32 for your posting

  6. 9 John 8:32 August 24, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    I do agree with you in some points. Maybe I should have been a little more clear in my assessment of the points you highlighted. I totally agree that accountability, or lack there of, is the downfall of these leaders. Pastors are to be held accountable by all of us, but I would also put the pressure on the ones that are close to the leader to speak not only the truth and rebuke, but speak, thus said the Lord as well as speak their minds as well. Smart Pastors would and should welcome this type of servant/leader, but being real we know that that is few and far between. Pastors who demand loyality and servitude are going to be in for a rude awakening when their earthly experience is finished. Loyalty & Respect MUST be earned, no matter what the calling is on your life. My prayer for all those that are in leadership, is to always keep God first, that way His children will be taken care the way they should be. Thanks for the dialog.

    • 10 speaking truth August 24, 2009 at 5:17 pm

      I understand your point John 8:32 – you were completely clear…and we agree. I have only experienced the negativity of “armor bearing”, so that’s my frame of reference. You’re right – loyalty and respect must be earned, and as you stated earlier, it’s all about God – not man.

      If this kind of service can be done in an edifying and biblically sound manner, then praise the Lord. As we both know, you are one of the fortunate few to have a pastor that wants to hear you tell him the truth. Take advantage of his openess and prayerfully help him keep his feet on the straight and narrow path.

  7. 11 Bill Bartmann September 1, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    I’m so glad I found this site…Keep up the good work

  8. 12 complete in Him September 21, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    I too I’m glad I found this site. My comment is we as servant of the Almighty God have to remember as anointed as our Pastors are they still have to get dressed, eat and deal with the day to day affairs like us all. In other words there has to be not only a consist diet of the word in the lives of those covering them but also PRAYER. Complete in Him

  9. 13 inspiredbytruth September 25, 2009 at 10:53 am

    This site is a blessing to me. I’d like to chime in on the topic. I am an Armor Bearer. I’ve been called and set apart by and for God. In serving Him the people He places me with and under I am automatically inclined and charged to under gird in prayer. The armor we are to bear is that of Ephesians 6:12. The word talks about the armor bearer in the old testament and the new is the fulfillment of the ground laying of the old testament. People have truly missed God altogether when we begin to get puffed up. In my understanding of what God has called me to be., the armor bearer of today is one who intercedes on the behalf of others and also speaks what thus saith the Lord when God leads you to. That doesn’t mean you have to be up in front of the church to do so.What’s done in secret is what’s exposed in public. If people would get back to the fact that God has saved and delivered or desires to deliver them and be and remain humble before Him they would understand and respect that we are bondservants of Jesus Christ and that in itself is a privilege.With that mindset we are honored to do whatever God put’s on our hearts.

    • 14 speaking truth September 25, 2009 at 2:52 pm

      Thanks for your insight Inspired. As long as you’re not compromising your walk with God during this assignment, then the Lords will be done. I pray that your “holy boldness” will continue to increase.

  10. 15 Rickey October 14, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Pastors have a very hard job and someone need to pray for them in and out of service. God has showed me that a armor bearer are needed today for pastors all over the world. Matt. 4:11 see when true pastors preach they give of themself so at the end they need someone to put back in them. Let’s take a look at something. when most pastors are attack in sickness it is after they have preach minutes later or just a few days ago. You have to understand something when a pastor preach he or she open themself up so that the holyghost or holy spirit can use them. So they open themself,but can not close themself. GOD BLESS ALL THE PASTORS AND HEAD LEADERS.

    • 16 speaking truth October 15, 2009 at 2:46 pm

      I agree that we must pray for pastors, Rickey, especially the ones who are preaching sound biblcal doctrine during these days of heresy and apostasy. My concern is that most people aren’t content with keeping their pastor in prayer – they have to take a posture of “servitude” to show their “submission” to the pastor (e.g. carrying bibles, walking 2-3 steps behind, acting as “security” and more). Worse than that, many “pastors” are demanding that kind of servitude to demonstrate their “position” and “anointing”.

      We should do all things for the glory of God – and if “armor bearing” takes on the posture of “personal assistant”, then we need to stop it.

  11. 17 Rickey October 14, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Pastors are hurting all over the world,because they need someone to hold up there arms in battle. To see true love from others they are people to so they need your support everyday call them, show them, give to them. They need you.

    • 18 pastoreli57 April 14, 2010 at 9:34 am

      Thank you so much for this site. As a female pastor of a growing church, I have seen the armorbearer position abused to the point that marriges broke up. Therefore, I am reluctant about asking anyone to help me in any way.I am beginning to get very weary. I am not trying to be Superwoman, I realize a ministry of excellence takes much work, and there are times that I do need prayer and help. I am praying that God will speak to someone that will be faithful to Him first and then to the ministry of helps. Please pray with me and for me.

  12. 20 In His Presence January 2, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Wow, I was blessed by all that I have read. I trully believe that there is a need for armor bearers. We should all be armour bearers that encourage the men and women of God as they go forth ministering to God’s people. Armour bearing has already been defined in the word of God as serving God’s people in battle. So, where ever the battle may be whether covering in prayer during the preached word, sending His servant a encouraging word through a card, or yes being free to hold our leadership to accountability for the life they lead before us,we are all called to be armourbearers for the kingdom. The true question becomes “Has God called you to it or did you call yourself? If God called you to it then he will appoint, annoint and prepare you to come forth in it that will bring Him glory and not controversy.

  13. 21 Rick February 10, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    I disagree with the Armor Bearer “title” and I’ll tell you why. Looking at this position in the old testament, it would be impossible to apply in the new testament. Because the Armor Bearer was for war, and now, we are not in war. Jesus has forever defeated and settled that satan is under our feet. There is no spiritual warfare now(if you are under the lie about spiritual warfare, then I urge you to find out your authority in Christ Jesus), hence an armor bearer is not part of our new covenant because there is no war. You can spiritualize this old testament position as much as you want, but when it comes down to it, it’s just a position. Now does God call us to help our leaders, yes, but don’t over spiritualize things so it sounds godly, you’ll just be deceiving yourselves.

    What people call today as an ‘armor bearer’ is really just a lackey. But if you are supporting your leader spiritually then that is commendable, but you are not an armor bearer, you are working as a member of the body of Christ.

  14. 22 ready4change February 12, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Rick,

    Dear brother…I, like you, would not coalesce the title of armour bearer with new testament spiritual warfare…However, I believe it’s quite a stretch to say that “there is no spritual warfare now”. I do believe that Paul was drawing a contrast between fleshly war and spiritual war as he lays it out in Ephesians 6:10-20. If your interpretation is that this is not referring to spiritual warfare, please provide scriptural reference to support it.

    I don’t want to misinterpret what you’re saying, but I would encourage you to do some reading of the scriptures before you come to your final conclusion on this matter. The major misconception that most people have about how satan is defeated comes from their misapprehension of the deliverance miracles that occured during Jesus’ earthly ministry. I also think it causes other Christians to swing totally to the other side of the pendulum because of the deceptive and error-filled nature in which “demon busting” is being portrayed today as well. But I’m getting ahead of myself, and this is already being dealt with in-depth at this location:

    http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/?p=1330#comment-111831

    If you’d like to read something that most closely resembles where I stand on spiritual warfare in general, be sure to check out the puritan William Gurnall’s classsic work here:

    http://www.ccel.org/g/gurnall/armour/home.htm

    Solus Christus,

    R4C

  15. 23 Endicott February 23, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    I understand his/her ability as an armorbearer, my question is can this armorbearer preach the gospel of God when the pastor ask me too. And it like a minister assisted?

  16. 24 Blessed February 23, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    An Armor Bearer… people are so caught up on this word/title. I truly believe if you just look past the title as an Armor Bearer you will bef able to see that it’s not a department, title or position… It’s HEART CONDITION! Do you have a heart of a servant whether spiritually or naturally to protect the anointing that is on the life of your Man/Woman of God. Before I really understood why people do what they do, I to used to be against the idea. But then my eyes were opened to PURPOSE on fulfilling the VISION that was given to my Man of God. I now have a PASSION for serving. Yeah, you may see me carrying bibles, water bottles, driving my spiritual parents and doing whatever it is that I told to do… You may think I look like a puppet or what not but Im doing whatever it takes to make it easier for my Man/Woman of God to bring forth a Rahma Word with no hindrances to save that ONE SOUL to populate the Mighty Kingdon of Heaven…. So in other words in the end… It’ll all be worth it. Hallelujah!

  17. 25 ready4change February 24, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Dear Blessed,

    I have few questions about your comment that I was hoping to get some clarification on. Like…

    What exactly do you mean when you say that an armor bearer is a “heart condition”?

    What biblical precedent can you give to support “protecting the annointing that is on the life of your man/woman of God”?

    If you don’t think titles are important, why did you capitalize the words man and woman?

    Is your purpose really “fulfilling the vision that was given to your man of God”? How does the word (when I say word I mean logos, which I’ll get to in a minute) of God describe what every man or woman’s purpose is, and do you use it to ensure that your pastor’s vision is in accordance with God’s will?

    Could you explain how carrying bibles, water bottles and driving your “spiritual parents” around makes it easier for them to bring forth a “Rahma” word?

    Finally, what is a “Rahma” word? In all probability, I think you meant to say “rhema” word. Could you give any scriptural example in which the “rhema” word is inconsistent with the “logos” word? The reason I ask is because the “logos” word is very clear about the definition of armor bearers, and if there is any place for them in the new testament church.

    Blessed, I understand your zeal and passion, and I appreciate it. My heart and prayer for you is that you would search God’s word and really get an understanding and meaning of the service you are providing to the pastor. The closest new testament example that I can think of that matches what you’re saying about making it easier on the preacher is found in Acts 6:1-4. The only difference that you may want to consider is the fact that the service given in this case was not to the apostles, but to the Grecian widows. Deacons were called to take charge of the daily distribution to these women so that the apostles could be given solely to prayer and the ministry of the word. All of the service you seem to be providing is going to your man of God. Have you even thought about the scriptural example that is displayed, where the service is given to the body of believers? Why isn’t your “man of God” calling you to serve primarily the members of the church, so that they can be free to minister? You are saying that what makes it easier for them to minister is what you do for them, but is this in step with scripture?

    If you desire, I can give you a complete, in-depth study of the real armor that is carried and worn by the Christian, and also deal with the way you refer to the term “anointing”. I sincerely believe that if you had a real understanding of what the anointing is, you would realize that it needs no human/natural protection. However, we must crawl before we walk, yes? If you’re insterested, take a good, hard look at the questions that I posed, answer them to the best of your ability (whether you agree with my position or not), and we can go from there. I look forward to more dialogue with you.

    Pax tecum,

    R4C

  18. 26 Johnny March 1, 2010 at 6:03 am

    Why didn’t Jesus have an armor bearer?

    “Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith…” (Hebrews 12:2 – NIV)

    I was always taught that when the people of God discuss matters of the church they should always look to Jesus.

    There is not one mentioning of armor bearers in the New Testament. Furthermore, I cannot recall one Old Testament prophet ever having an armor bearer, why not?

    I am willing to bet that their job of carrying out God’s instructions was much more strenuous and far more dangerous than any modern day pastor.

    So much of what ails the church today can be directly related to its reliance upon Old Testament law and church tradition.

    In Matthew 5:17, Jesus says, “Do not think that I have come to destroy the law…I have not come to destroy it, but to fulfill it.”

    I believe that Jesus is saying that the Law was no more than prophecy to be fulfilled, and Jesus fulfilled the Law for us… YES! Thank God! He also says that the scriptures testify of him…. (John 5:39-47).

    As a result, we are not obligated to follow the Law, none of it.

    BTW Great post and I loved the discussion!

  19. 27 Brian F March 12, 2010 at 9:55 am

    I guess I could be considered an armourbearer. I am an assc. at a mostly African-American church(i’m white). My pastor is 10 years my junior in age. I believe he is a godly,humble man who preaches the true Word of God. That being said, he doesn’t allow me or my to other colleages to carry ANYTHING! He says he is a young healthy man than can get what he needs. This brings me to my point of, the 3 of us r glad to help him(even though there isn’t much to do) out of respect-not any other reason because he is my friend and has never treated me as an underling! We have been places where other pastors had their assc. carrying things, would not let them sit in the pulpit, my Sr. pastor would never and I mean never allow this to happen to me or the other 2 assc. I think its all stated in Matthew 23:5-12

    5″Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’

    8″But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ.[b] 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

    I do love this blog, can’t seem to get away from it-the truth is wonderful!!!!!!
    In HIM, Brian

  20. 29 Darlene March 18, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    In a former church of ours, the senior pastor left a public statement about “armor bearers” on the church website. He made a request that “upper level management” type businessmen would support his “visions” with a committment of $2500 annually. This would entitle them to be esteeemed as “Armor Bearers.” This dufus request remained on the church’s website until I called him out on it, via email. Shortly thereafter, it was removed, along with his multi-point wish list of turning the church facility into something more like a Disney them park, than a church building. He literally had plans for so many multi-million dollar revamps that smacked of “the world” in every way: a Noah’s ark replica for the tots, designed by a Disney designer; a Broadway-theatre-style dinner theater in place of the youth center; a website that would “impress the MTV crowd”, in-house restaurants, etc. I am so glad to see and hear of other Christians who are calling these men to account. Incidentally, after I contacted the pastor and “rocked his world,” he did remove his big wish list. About a year or so later, he packed his family up and left this area. There may be some good AG pastors, but for the record, he was one. I believe there is a variance in the wealthy pastor syndrome. Some don’t live as lavishly as they might. Instead, the build monuments to themselves, via the massive church structures and programs, hoping to leave a big mark on this world. Where are the Paul’s who turned the known world upside down, with a simple messasge and a few straggling friends?

    • 30 Darlene March 19, 2010 at 7:01 am

      I did a quick google search to find an article on this former pastor that I commented on. I was floored to read his “about me” page which described his call to pastor that church and his comment that the church congregation “embraced his vision for the church to move forward as a life-giving, Spirit-filled, ethnically-diverse, cell-driven church.” Wow. Whatever everyone here knows is that the church had a HUGE split after he began to pastor. We’re talking about members who had been there since the church had begun more than 25 years prior…up and leaving. Many were offended by so many changes and a heavy focus on ethnical diversity that was far too focussed on the color of one’s skin–whether that color be red, yellow, black, or white. When I refer to a split, I mean that the congregation went down to far less than half. How do these men dare to put such blatant lies up on their websites? It is self-promotion to not speak the truth and be honest with the state of affairs. The man stayed there as pastor for about 5 years and split. I have come to believe that many, if not most, pastors have no clue about what it means to pastor, to commit, to be of “good reputation” to those in their local church. Instead, they are hirelings, imported from wherever, spreading their resumes out for any takers and relying on church demographics and the modern church’s practice of patterning itself after corporate America, to “hear from God.” Yuck-O.

  21. 31 T March 21, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Hmmm.. I’m kinda split on this, and so many of you have already said such great things. But the amount of pastors who seem to want notoriety does upset me. I recently changed churches. I was at the same one for nearly 7 years, but so many things really worked my soul. lol. A few of the things that I think went a bit too far are like the time when at a picnic, an assistant kept wiping the dirt off of the first ladies sandals. Or laying a red carpet out for her birthday celebration. What ever happened to the greatest begin the least? Or saying, no thanks, I can wipe my feet. It reeks of pride. Or the time a guy kissed the pastors feet. Um, excuse me, but I will reserve that for when I get to heaven and see Jesus. He is the one who saved me after all. I refuse to get so caught up in worshiping someones anointing instead of God. We are all filled with his spirit. One person does not need that much reverence. Also, I hate the way they use the favor of God to justify the lavishness. God shows us his grace and mercy so that the world may see his passion and be drawn to him. Not so that we can feel fancy and special.
    I understand that being a servant is a huge thing, and commendable. but we need to make sure that we are tapped into and worshiping, first and foremost, our maker. Kings and kingdoms will all pass away. But there is something about the name of Jesus…

    • 32 Keith April 2, 2010 at 3:08 pm

      I am an armor bearer and I think everyone has made some excellent points, but I believe that there is a role for armor bearers in today’s church; just as in the old testaments those in battle needed physical protection, the same is for our leaders in the spiritual realm. That’s why I believe Paul stated that we no longer wrestle against flesh and blood. Our Pastors have great mandates on their lives and the enemy attacks them in ways that we can not imagine and an armour bearer is one called by God to intercede for them in times of spiritual warfare. I know many so called “armor bearers” may get out of hand with tending to every little need of a Pastor and that’s why I agree with a prior post that it is a heart condition. If we a seeking the Kingdom of God first and in the will of God we won’t have to worry if we are worhsipping man rather than God. Also for the last post the bible clearly tells us that we should esteem our leaders: “Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.” (I Tim. 5:17,18) & “And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work’s sake. And be at peace among yourselves.” I Thessalonians 5:12,13
      When we are in the will of God we can’t go wrong.

  22. 33 Darlene April 2, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    What we really need to think about is the original question…”Are ‘Armor Bearers’ Biblical?”

    There are the “five-fold” ministries listed in the New Testament: apostles, prophets, preachers, teachers, evangelists. We know about pastors/elders, deacons. Nothing about “armor bearers.” When men dole out titles, it begins to make me twitch. We all have a role and a function in the body of Christ, if we will find our places and wash each other’s feet. It seems that there have been enough abuses and questionable motives associated with the whole concept of adding extra-biblical titles to men. Humankind is pretty weak and generally doesn’t seem to handle titles well. I think that is why Jesus raised the point by stating, “call no man ‘Father’.”

  23. 34 Darryl April 18, 2010 at 6:08 am

    I am appreciative of this post and have enjoyed the many responses. I am an armorbearer and I believe it is an essential part of ministry. I remember when I was appointed, I told my pastor that I didn’t know what to do and he responded good that means you’re teachable. I waited on him to “teach me” and nothing. Months later when I asked him about teaching me he told me he wasn’t the teacher, the Holy Spirit was and that I was already learning servanthood and didn’t realize it. Just like any leadership roll in the church or at work, it takes people to fowl it up. As long as there is flesh factor involved, it will always be abuse of some sort in anything. I serve God first. He is the head of my life. I minister to my pastor in many ways. Do I carry his water…no, but I do get him some if he’s thirsty. Do I carry his Bible …yes. Because I want his hands free to minister to others. None is done because it is required of me or told to me that it is expected by my pastor. I have been called secret service, body guard, slave, gopher, and all kinds of crazy things, and that’s from the body of Christ. They ask me would you take a bullet for him? And when I say yes they laugh and say I’m crazy, until I assure them I would do the same for them or get them drink when they’re thirsty. Then it’s the deer in the headlights look. The greatest part of my ministry to my pastor is done in the prayer closet. To intercede and hold him up in prayer. Remember, all of you who have responded to this post that there are people who call you crazy because you believe a 14 year old virgin who never laid with a man somehow got pregnant. I feel we should concentrate more on love and unity in the church rather than if armorbearers are needed. I believe when we get to Heaven we will be surprised at how much we really DON’T know. Just my opinion.

  24. 35 Darlene April 19, 2010 at 7:39 am

    One thing I’m curious about is this….Where did this concept start? It did not orgiinate in the New Testament. I think no matter how good your heart might be, in serving your pastor, what onlookers (both saved and unsaved) see is something else. They see leaders who feel the need to appoint an “entourage” of caretakers for THEIR SERVICE. Think hard on even the outward appearance and what the lost see. They see images of the Pope, the Pope-mobile, the armed body guards. In the world, with celebrities, they see the same concept carried out–the performers and divas who have their entourage to care for their every need. In churches, there has been a celebrity mentality that has crept in.

    No matter how well-intended some of the commentaters here are, and how pure-hearted they might be in servanthood, it might be helpful to take a great big step backward and ask yourselves, “What does the world see?” If the practice of appointing men, titling them, and elevating them so that they can elevate pastors is offensive to MANY believers, it is even more offensive to the lost world. My Jesus washed feet, and while dying, could have called down a fleet of angels to attend to Him…yet He did not. Let that attitude of servanthood and it’s wonderful witness start with every leader..pastors, teachers, etc. How much more should men follow HIS example. If you want to get a man a glass of water, fine. But can’t he get it himself? If he can and is able to, let him do this. Water bottles are cheap and portable. It is always wise to let men do what they are ABLE to do for themselves and to dive in and help those who cannot help themselves. The church as a whole, from Rome, to every various face of Christianity here in the US needs a serious makeover. We need to think, act, and look like Jesus; because if we don’t, we are utterly useless in this world. This means that the pastor should be a witness for Christ as a role model to his flock. If not, our hypocrisy will be clearly evident and no one will be saved. Seriously…in a large local church here, the pstor can’t carry his own Bible, can’t pick up a Kleenex on his own, can’t lift a glass of water? This is pathetic. There is no value in this behavior and from the point-of-view of some of us peons in the pews, it is very embarrassing. I am serious. It is utterly embarrassing. When I see certain behaviors exhibited by pastors and their staff and I ask myself this HUGE question, “Would it do more harm than good to invite an unbeliever to come and visit my church?” and the answer is that it would set them back further to visit, I realize that I am likely in the wrong place, myself.

    There is a huge difference between a man who teaches and a man who prefers to be called “Teacher So-and-So.” I have an earthly father and a heavenly Father. There is a huge difference between my father and a man who desires to be called “Father So-and-So.”
    There is a huge difference between a pastor….a man with the heart of a shepherd, the calling, the lay-down-your-life-and-stink-like-sheep mentality of my Jesus than a man who prefers any particular label in capitals, and stamped in gold on his Bible cover. Speaking of which…that’s a whole ‘nother topic. “Reverend So-and-So”…..I revere only one and He’s seated on the throne.

  25. 36 Darlene April 19, 2010 at 8:01 am

    I see many supporters of the title “Armor Bearer”. Could any one of you please show me chapter and verse for this in the New Testament? I would really appreciate that help because I am really feeling dumb as I scan down the page of replies from those who believe you are called to this position. Many of you are saying that the concept is Biblical. We are New Covenant Christians. If this concept is necessary, wouldn’t Jesus or Paul have mentioned it? If being an “Armor Bearer” means that you are praying for your pastor, then the entire church would be so labelled. Once the whole group is labelled, it is kind of unnecessary to use an upper case letter, taking the descriptive term “Armor Bearer” from a common noun to a proper noun. If it is appropriate to lift an Old Testament military term and transfer it to the New Testament as a church position, how far could we take that concept?

    Let’s be fruit examiners. What is the fruit as a result of this new tradition? “Every good and perfect gift is from above.” Is this “good”?

    • 37 speaking truth April 19, 2010 at 9:28 am

      You make an interesting point Darlene. I don’t have much to add to the conversation since I made my initial feelings/apprehension known initially, but I too am concerned when some get wrapped up in the title instead of the duties/activities. To your point – we should all be armor bearers (praying for our leadership, etc.) – just like we should all be apostles (another title that although it does appear in the New Testament, is bastardized by today’s ministers). I also argue with the contention that someone should carry “pastor’s bible so he isn’t incumbered before he delivers the Word”. That thinking/activity places “pastor” on a pedastool that perpetuates the feeling of superiority. If that’s the case, then pastor should have someone attend to their EVERY need (including bathing and feeding them) so they don’t have to worry about “frivilous things”.

      All in all, I think we should stick to Sola Scriptura because of the dangers of eisegesis.

  26. 38 Paul N April 27, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    For me this Armor bearer thing is not kool, It just doesnt sit right in my spirit and like others I dont see any scriptural basis for it. There is no reason to call oneself an armour bearer if you are commissioned to pray for the leaders and really God has called the whole body to do likewise. If anyone feels a calling on a higher level to do so, to God be The Glory, however you are not an armor bearer, you are called to intercession, supplication whatever the case may be.

    To me this sets up the Pastor to become proud. Cant you put your own bible and notebook on the podium? Another thing i have witnessed is that the armour bearer has a tendency to get proud as if to say “I am the Pastor right hand man”. My experience is that those same people will not give a hand in other work in the Church as if they are just there to follow Pastor around.

    My fellow Christians, the flesh is bad enough as it is, what we dont need to do is to give it any other reason to get proud and puffed up.

  27. 39 Darlene April 28, 2010 at 9:11 am

    Cha-cha-cha-CHIA.

  28. 40 cindy50h April 29, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    I was appointed this week as my Pastor’s armorbearer. I didn’t know what an armorbearer was, but I was told that basicly I am already doing it. I’m not into titles. I really don’t want to be called an armorbearer. I don’t carry her Bible, but I do help with what’s needed to be done as a servant of God. My relationship with God comes first before anyone else, even my husband, and he’s the same with me, then we serve others. I feel that we should do for others as we would like things done for us. In John 13:1-17 Jesus gave us the perfect example of being a servant and doing unto others. In Matt 18:1-4 He tells us to be humble to be the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.
    Thanks for all your input to help me find some answers to my question, What is an aromrbearer?

  29. 41 Darlene April 30, 2010 at 7:21 am

    Oops…My Chia Pet remark was supposed to land on the “pay per view” page. I was making a joke about the rug. :P


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