More of the (False) Gospel According to John (Alvarado)

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Yesterday, I posted part 1 of “Bishop” Johnathon Alvarado’s personal philosophy regarding his affinity for spiritual fatherhood and his perception of the ministerial order of Jesus Christ. I specifically used the term “personal philosophy” because the more I researched scripture to disprove his “sermonette”, the more I realized that his was not an exegesis at all – and it went far beyond an eisegesis.

Yesterday’s post was to show the dangerous teaching that Jesus’ ministry was only legitimized because of His submission to John the Baptist. Alvarado’s advancement of the “ministerial legitimacy only through the anointing of a spiritual father” is clearly illustrated in most charismatic churches operating today – large and small. This contemptible thinking creates strife in the Body by purporting the false teaching that you are ineffective and impotent in ministering the Gospel UNLESS another man “launches you”.

In the previous video I posted, Alvarado clearly stated that you can only hear God through a spiritual covering! 

I gathered even more of Alvarado’s interview to post today, and I purposely posted the most egregious example yesterday so that today’s examination will only make you shake your head in pity, as opposed to yesterday’s offering that made you want to “reach out and touch” Alvarado directly:

“You’re NOT anointed UNLESS somebody over you says you’re anointed!”

In this episode of “The False Gospel According to John Alvarado”, we learn of Alvarado’s belief in infant evangelism:

“I started preaching when I was 12…I sat next to Jared Sawyer…y’all put that camera on that handsome young man right there. That young man is 11 years old, he’s a licensed minister, God’s gone use him in tremendous ways…”

So, God can’t use His Son unless and until He submitted to John the Baptist, and He won’t use someone who hasn’t been “launched out” by a pulpit pimp…but an 11 year old kid? Oh, God can use him! Riiiiight.

Jared Sawyer is a child preacher currently popular along the charismatic circuit. Sure, he’s cute in his Easter suit, and he’s an articulate and motivating speaker – but he’s not a pastor. As I wrote in a previous article on the importance of sound expository preaching, what does this child (or any child) know about regeneration and the work of the Holy Spirit in salvation? What does this or any other child preacher know about the doctrine of grace? Can this kid properly exegete the Book of Job and detail the complex posture and pattern of Godly suffering?

Nope. But he sure can sing – and he looks cute standing behind that big ol’ bookboard entertaining the sheep. This is not a personal attack on Jared Sawyer or any other child minister, but I believe that they need mature teachers to nourish the gift of God in them (because they are literally children) until they are able to lead others themselves. 

Interestingly, Alvarado next mentions leaders who are “jealous” of those in their care, and how many “spiritual fathers” misuse the leaders under their care, yet he saves his direct ire for those who flee the jealous and abusive “spiritual fathers”!:

“…[Timms: ‘the anointing can get you drunk’]…the first time somebody stands up and says ‘you know I don’t know why they don’t let you preach more often because every time you preach the anointing comes, revelation comes…listen when you go start a church I’m gon go with you…’ the devil is a lie! The anointing never flows from the feet up! The anointing flows from the head down! You’re not anointed unless somebody OVER YOU says you’re anointed”

At least now we see how Alvarado gets his twisted understanding of the ministry of Christ. In Alvarado-land, God only pronounced Jesus’ as His “beloved Son in Whom I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:17) because John the Baptist had already said that Jesus was anointed. Yup, that makes sense…in the false gospel according to John (Alvarado).

So now Timms and Alvarado take an ax to Psalm 133:

“…it came down his head, it didn’t say it ran over his face…it ran over his beard…immature boys don’t grow beards. The anointing only flows over a mature face. Everything that think they anointed [shakes his head no]…anointing comes over a face…that has had time and maturity.”

So why them would Alvarado say this after having just sent a “shout out” to an 11 year old preacher whom he just said was anointed? Now he’s contradicting himself as he goes along!

Psalm 133 is an exposition on brotherly love and unity, not a picture of submission to a spiritual father when “your time” has arrived. Psalm 133 correlates to Psalm 120. Both are “songs of ascents” – literally songs that Jewish pilgrims sang on their way to the 3 great feasts of their culture. Psalm 133 is a plea for spiritual unity (primarily fraternally, or in brotherhood). The oil metaphor is utilized to recognize the priesthood of Aaron, and the subsequent celebration of godly rule over the children of Israel – and it is used in that same reference in Psalm 133 as a plea for unity to replicate the same celebratory atmosphere that occurred during Aaron’s coronation and anointing with oil. It is not an ordinance or sacrament of the faith – necessary to confer “privileges” on someone who is “ready” to lead.

So now, Timms is starting to feel a bit overshadowed by the good Bishop, so he begins to click, twitch, and yell to prove that he too can move the crowd – and Alvarado let’s Timms have his moment…until it’s time to swoop in with more deep revelation about David’s anointing.

Alvarado contends that “immature leaders” must suffer under their maniacal “spiritual fathers” just as David suffered under Saul:

 “…David was brought because at various points in Saul’s life and ministry a distressing spirit would come and vex him, and David’s responsibility was to play and minister until Saul got healed. So the question now ‘what do I do if I have a jealous person that’s over me’? I duck the javelins, and I play until they get healed”

So no matter how sick and twisted your “spiritual father” is…no matter how they extort the sheep and you’re left to defend him against your will…no matter how much they beg for money and claim that the church is broke while they live in luxury…no matter how they take sexual advantage of the women (and men) in the church - your job is to stay and “play” (i.e. run cover for them and take their abusive condemnation when you attempt to reason and rebuke according to the Word) until they get healed?

What about fleeing false doctrine – and warning the other sheep on your way out the door – so that the “spiritual father” repents before the Lord for a healing? What about what the Word of God says in Romans 16:17; 2 Thessalonians 3:6; Proverbs 14:7; Titus 1:10-16 and so on? Oh I forgot, in the gospel according to John (Alvarado), the word of man trumps the Word of God, so ignore sound biblical doctrine – just listen to the pimp to whom you’ve submitted…you know, the one who is being vexed by all of those spirits in the first place.

The pimps create an atmosphere of paranoia by declaring you’re not ready to leave them – all the while their behavior becomes more and more troubling – and ungodly – to you. Then, they tell you that they’re protecting you by making you stay under their wicked authority – and that you are a rebellious son of the devil if you dare try to break away.

Then, Alvarado gives a bizarre eisegesis of David, beheading Goliath:

“…David was making sure, that anything that I face in my youth, I don’t want it to come back when I’m an old man. I’m not just gon’ kill it…I’ma…slap somebody high five and say ‘take his head off’…”

Here is the account of David and Goliath’s encounter as it appears in scripture:

1 Samuel 17:49-51 (New American Standard Bible) 

49And David put his hand into his bag and took from it a stone and slung it, and struck the Philistine on his forehead. And the stone sank into his forehead, so that he fell on his face to the ground.

 50Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand.

 51Then David ran and stood over the Philistine and took his sword and drew it out of its sheath and killed him, and cut off his head with it When the Philistines saw that their champion was dead, they fled.

David killed Goliath because of Goliath’s blasphemy of the Living God, and David understood that Goliath challenged the Lord, not him, therefore the Lord was with him through his courage (Deuteronomy 31:6; Judges 7:18). This is not a story of victory in “waiting for your turn”, it is an example of God’s ever present protection for His children – and the ability to do the (seemingly) impossible through Him.

Folks, I’m no bible scholar, nor do I possess superior biblical intellect. I read the Word, I research in context, and the pieces of the puzzle fit together from there.

ANYBODY can rightly divide the Word if they sought to do so with the right posture: not for fame, adoration of men, or notoriety, but for the glory of God and for understanding His instructions for your life.

When more people take time to climb through the Word to see if their pastor is telling the WHOLE truth, then we’ll all become “dangerous Christians” – ones who can hear from God directly and challenge the false teachers on their heresy.

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16 Responses to “More of the (False) Gospel According to John (Alvarado)”


  1. 1 escapeetoo April 17, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    ST,

    I just checked out your YouTube video on Alvarado PT 2.I ASSURE you Landers is already working on his Sunday Message to throw Hall under the bus with this message.

    This mess is from a man with a made up denomination! The folks in that studio looked a fool!

    This is type of heresy give license for a pimp to pimp. This is the type of heresy Paul warned the Colossians against:

    “See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority” (Colossians 2:8-10)

    Notice the word says… “For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form…The word never mentions in your spiritual daddy!

  2. 2 gcmwatch April 17, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Man, this is so bizarre. After reading this paper by Alvarado, it sounds like he got caught up with in his flesh in these videos. In this paper, he is sane and balanced, although this one seems to reflect strongly the near heresy he spouts on TBN. Id really like to know which one is real Alvarado.

    Someone may have mentioned this before, but this is what I call
    “territorial tribalism” in the black church.

  3. 3 N'Catina April 17, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    I have never heard of this person, but this, and the first video, leave me totally appalled. Without having to use scripure to dissect an obviously anti-biblical “message,” it demonstrates one thing: man’s insatiable need to exert control made worse by the deliberate butchering of scripture!

    For the little bit of the second video I was able to stomach, every aspect of these fools’ message screams that a person is nothing without some pimp giving his endorsement (re: “blessing”), and that they are “out of order” if gifts are exercised w/o their personal approval. It says that, regardless of whatever gift and anointing God Himself planted on someone, it can never be of use unless some other PERSON validates it for you. Only those that are “sold out” on the supposed “vision” will get play in the “church.” Those having their gifts endoresed by the “passah” are often minions and yes men and women to these HNICs. Anyone else having any degree of an “independent spirit” or otherwise not seemingly subscribing to the wiles of the “house” are considered “out of order” and are either pigeon-holed back into “submission” or the person leaving the organization.

    Personally, I did the latter twice in the last 7.5 years, the first of the two institutions that align “total submission” to the “pastor” with true obedience to God.

    Totally, totaly sickening.

  4. 4 lavrai April 17, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    OK, Speaking Truth. This is sad and hilarious. I’ve seen this program before, Praise The LORD, and for some reason thought Timms was a respectable man of GOD… I’ve just seen different.

    Why was he acting up over that foolishness Alvarado let come out of his mouth? Kicking and screaming and trying to show “30 years” with 10 fingers… comical.

    There are the random episodes of Praise The LORD that actually has sound biblical teaching… but too often it comes off as some kind of game show… like who can get deep enough in the WORD and twist it to make the audience clap and jump.

  5. 5 Cop April 17, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    I may be misstaken, but isnt the host the pastor that cheated on his wife (TWICE) with a prostitute and his wife has filed for divorced.

    birds of a feather flock together.

  6. 6 Vaughn April 18, 2009 at 12:26 am

    This is crazy (that video was worst than the first) and with Timms speaking of how Joeseph beat the snot out of Jesus, that in itself seemed contradictory, because having so many middle eastern people in my area, and from personal experience the boys seem to get away with alot.

    You nailed this one it seems. this has got to be the church of the what’s h(ype)nning now. Talk about itching ears. Poor pimp in the making, that boy might be in trouble if left to his mentors devices!

  7. 7 Eyeswideopen April 18, 2009 at 10:46 am

    Hey IST, great post as usual!:)

    With reference to the clear butchering of I Samuel 17:23. I have two questions? #1- wasn’t Saul at this point rejected by God? (I Sam 15:17-23)and #2- what eventually happened to Saul? He got “healed” alright!According to my Bible,God punished him for his wickedness and disobedience to Him and not Samuel by the way!!

    Do they realize that they just might have been prophesying their own doom? I don’t know, let the Bible be the judge. And the Bible is clear on this.

    With a deep sigh of disgust, it just goes back to the old saying that if you want to “hide” something from a “negro” put it in a book! But in this case if you want to “hide” somthing from a “saved” negro and believers in general put it in the Bible!

    Let God be true and every man a liar!

  8. 8 Eyeswideopen April 18, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Im sorry but I just had to add this regarding the “annointing”. If we are to believe the annointing flows from top to bottom, wouldn’t it also be true that any mess (sin) coming from the top will flow to the bottom? It has been my experience that alot of times when a “prevailing” spirit if you will is rampant in a church whether it be an over-abundance of liars, pride, greed, adulterers or homosexuals or whatever, it is a good chance that it has come from the top! It does not necessaryly mean that the mand or womand of gawd is practicing in a particular sin but it’s a good chance that they are stuggling in that area. Again, this has been my experience.

    Also the annointing is not to be used or manipulated (witchcraft) at-will as these people claim and allude to. it had a specific purpose and if you just take the time to read the Bible you will see that it was not used to get more of it (the annointing) money, favor or to curse someone namely a rebellious “son” or “daughter”!

    Is 10:27 (they love to quote in the KJV by the way) but it says “In that day the Lord will end the bondage of his people. He will break the yoke of slavery and lift it from their shoulders”. (LASB)

  9. 9 gcmwatch April 18, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    EwO said: ‘It has been my experience that alot of times when a “prevailing” spirit if you will is rampant in a church whether it be an over-abundance of liars, pride, greed, adulterers or homosexuals or whatever, it is a good chance that it has come from the top.”

    True, we tolerate what we do not kill and justify what we tolerate.

    Saul, case in point as you pointed out. Thus,his disbedience drew the anger of God and God did not renew his standing with the “family”. Although the mercy of the Lord endureth forever, it does not mean that his mercy is available or even offered in all circumstances. Our attitude should be to never take his mercy for granted.

  10. 10 Messenger Beloved April 19, 2009 at 1:00 am

    I was so disgusted when I saw this on TBN…totally sickening!

  11. 11 Rebecca April 19, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Zachery Tims states that ” we don’t even hear from Jesus for a long time because Joseph beat his behind” …. “daddy got somebody straight” WHAT?????
    I’ve read Luke 2:40-52 in numerous versions and to extrapolate from scripture the above statement to define the relationship between Jesus and his earthly father is ludicrous!

    John Alvardo states that “David’s responsibility was to play and minister until Saul got healed (from a distressing spirit that vexed him)”
    … “so the question now … what do I do when a jealous person is over me – I duck the javelins and I play until they get healed.”
    The implication of that statement leads one to believe that Saul threw a javelin to pin David to the wall more than one time, but David just ducked and kept right on playing until Saul was healed or delivered. UGH?????

    The real answer will be found in the Bible…wonder if the folks standing and shouting will actually take the time to read the entire text beginning at I Samuel chapters 18 – 23. It would only take about 15-20 minutes and would bring so much enlightenment and hopefully keep them from being duped again in the future.

    Let’s look at what is actually recorded in the Bible.
    The day Saul throws the javelin at David to kill him, he jumps aside and ESCAPES and he never goes back to play his harp again.
    Saul then tries to recruit his aides and his son, Jonathan to assassinate David … to no avail. There are some very interesting events that happen between chapters 19 through 21.

    Eventually in chapter 22 we find David escaping to the cave of Adullam. About four hundred other men follow him and he becomes a captain over them. In this same chapter Saul’s jealousy reaches a climax and eventually leads to the killing of 85 priests, their families and livestock.

    Distorting scripture like this only benefits a leader who is interested in robots and not interested in developing and equipping all of the saints to do the work of the ministry. It’s not just a “few” that are anointed, but every member in the Body of Christ is anointed by Holy Spirit to minister. We are not called to “come and sit ye” (in the pews and watch)… but to “Go ye” and teach all nations.

    It’s dangerous to be in a place of leadership and mutilate the scripture like this. I pray they will have a visitation from God that will awaken them and turn them away from their wrong ideas to believe what is true and they will come to their senses and escape from snare of the devil.
    I also pray for that precious young boy to be protected from people with wrong motives who might exploit him for their own purposes or financial gain.

    Blessings to all …. from a fellow believer who was in a spiritual coma for many years while serving the institution until Jesus kissed me with His Truth and awakened me to His Love!!!

    I’m grateful for the journey. It has made me better not bitter. I forgive all … for they don’t know what they are doing. Many are afraid that by questioning what they were taught or trained in or those in leadership over them they are challenging God’s authority.
    I pray for them to be awakened to Truth!
    Peace & Love
    Rebecca Susan

    Gal 5:1
    For freedom Christ has set us free; stand fast therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

  12. 12 Rebecca April 19, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I need to apologize for an error I made in the comment above. I don’t want to confuse or mislead anyone, because I was wrong in explaining the incident between Saul and David (javelin throwing & ducking).

    I Samuel 18:10-11 states that Saul threw a javelin at David and David escaped twice. The third time this is recorded, David escapes and does not return.(I Samuel 19:10). His wife and Sauls daughter even covers for him.

    When I wrote “The day Saul throws the javelin at David to kill him, he jumps aside and ESCAPES and he never goes back to play his harp again” … I was referring to I Samuel 19:10

    However, David did not get Saul healed by his playing. Saul grew worse, because of his own jealousy.

    Also, David did not ask for nor need Sauls permission to become a leader over the 400 men.

    Anyway, I just needed to clarify. Thanks ST!

  13. 14 pierced April 19, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    This is off subject a bit, but I couldn’t help but notice how Zachery Timms seems to trivialize scripture. Timms can be comical if entertainment is what you’re looking for or his objective may be to “keep it(scripture)real” (in a more modern context).

    I’m sorry, but I find statements such as, ” we don’t even hear from Jesus for a long time because Joseph beat his behind” …. “daddy got somebody straight”, irritating and distracting.

    I think they detract from the personhood of Jesus Christ, that He is the son of God and is holy and righteous.

  14. 15 Lady D April 20, 2009 at 11:44 am

    All I can say is WOW!!! I’ve heard scripture sliced & diced, but this is some of the best or should I say the worse. I remember my days on the plantation, justa hoopin, hollerin,jumping up and down-and writing checks.
    God is faithful and mighty to save!

  15. 16 BlackWomenBlowTheTrumpet April 20, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Hello there,

    Thank you for this!

    There are PLENTY of preachers who tell the masses that they are not “legitimate” until a leader “legitimizes” them. Isn’t that what the “Preaching License” is all about?? Why of course.

    Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
    Lisa


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